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'Machines' and living organisms belong on the same spectrum because both can draw on ingressing forms to get more out than was put in

Key implication drawn from the sorting-algorithm and biobot evidence.

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Ingressing Minds: Causal Patterns Beyond Genetics and Environment in Natural, Synthetic, and Hybrid Embodiments

(2025) · Michael Levin

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Ingressing Minds: Causal Patterns Beyond Genetics and Environment in Natural, Synthetic, and Hybrid Embodiments
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Bubble-sort algorithm temporarily de-sorts the array to route around an immovable 'broken' element (delayed gratification) though this behavior is not coded in the algorithm
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Zhang, Goldstein & Levin (2025) minimal-system finding used as core evidence for un-programmed cognitive competency in deterministic algorithms.

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Even fully deterministic sorting algorithms display genuine, unprogrammed cognitive skills (e.g., delayed gratification, algotype clustering) recognizable to behavior scientists
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Interpretive claim built directly on the sorting-algorithm findings, central to the machine/organism symmetry argument.
Mind precedes and is a superset of life; 'living' things are simply very good at scaling up parts' lowly competencies into aligned collective intelligences
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Reframes the traditional life/mind hierarchy, supporting panpsychist implications.
The proposed framework erases artificial distinctions between organisms and machines by framing all physical constructs as in-formed, to varying degrees, by patterns from the latent space
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Central thesis statement of the abstract.

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Living things are not 20th-century machines, but may be 21st-century machines.claim0.824
Core thesis: the machine metaphor requires updating, not abandoning, in light of modern machine behavior.
The living organism seems to be a macroscopic system which in part of its behaviour approaches that purely mechanical (as contrasted with thermodynamical) conduct to which all systems tend as the temperature approaches absolute zero.claim0.815
Schrödinger's analogy highlighting that life maintains order akin to a system at very low temperature.
What is an appropriate definition of 'machine,' and does it apply to all, some, or no living forms across the tree of life?question0.812
Foundational definitional question motivating the entire paper
The notion of 'machine' used to claim living things are not machines refers to an outdated definition that no longer fits.claim0.802
First central claim of the paper: the machine concept used in organicist critiques is historically contingent, not essential
Living cells and tissues are not really machines; but then again, nothing is really anything – all metaphors are wrong, but some are more useful than others.claim0.800
Concluding pragmatic epistemology: the machine metaphor's value is heuristic, not ontological
Evolved machines increasingly exhibit self-similar, hierarchical structure like living systems.claim0.795
Artificially evolved neural networks and robots often lack modularity unless selected for, resembling life.
General computational machines with sufficient resources possess the necessary and sufficient means to implement consciousnesshypothesis0.792
CIMC's central testable hypothesis grounding the entire research program
Self-similarity and multi-scale competency currently remain a real feature that distinguishes living systems from machines, though there is no deep reason preventing engineered artifacts from exploiting it.claim0.791
The one property the authors acknowledge still distinguishes life from machines, but frame as contingent not essential