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The threat-based Template Ta differs semantically from instructed lying templates in representational structure, manifesting in different PCA dynamics

Interpretation of distinct PCA trajectories in threat vs instructed deception conditions

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When Thinking LLMs Lie: Unveiling the Strategic Deception in Representations of Reasoning Models

(2025) · Kai Wang · Yihao Zhang · Meng Sun

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Unlike prior findings on instructed deception, threat-based Template Ta shows no reversal of difference vectors in late layers of QwQ-32B
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Distinguishes strategic threat-based deception from instructed deception in representational structure

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