What is your original face before your parents were born?

Classical Zen koan given a geometric reading as a question about intrinsic manifold structure prior to coordinates.

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A Mathematical Elucidation of Buddhist Enlightenment

(2026) · Susumu Inui

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A Mathematical Elucidation of Buddhist Enlightenment
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Enlightenment is the transition to a state in which identification with the ego-centric coordinate system φp0 is dissolved, enabling direct description of the intrinsic geometry of (M,g).
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Proposition 4.4, differential-geometric elucidation of enlightenment.

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